Saurabh Sandhir, CEO and Co-Founder of Kipling Secure, joins Joey Pinz for a sharp conversation on AI risk, MSP opportunity, and the personal journey from India to Silicon Valley leadership. Saurabh shares how his early exposure to engineering, Atari BASIC, IIT Delhi, Purdue, Juniper, Ericsson, Nokia, and Nuage Networks shaped the way he thinks about technology, business, and leadership.

The conversation moves into one of the most important issues facing businesses today: unmanaged AI. Saurabh explains how AI adoption is creating new risks around shadow AI, sensitive data exposure, AI-specific attacks, and misleading content. His message is clear: AI should not be blocked, but it must be governed.

For MSPs and MSSPs, Saurabh sees a major opportunity. Kipling Secure helps service providers turn AI risk into a new recurring revenue stream through AI Detection and Response built for multi-tenant MSP workflows.

The episode closes with a thoughtful discussion on discipline, identity, humility, and why lasting consistency comes from who you are—not just what you force yourself to do.

🌟 Top 3 Highlights:

🚀 AI risk is becoming a new revenue opportunity for MSPs

🛡️ Shadow AI and data exposure are already happening inside SMBs

🧠 Discipline works best when it becomes part of your identity