Joey Pinz sits down with entrepreneur, software engineer, and AI strategist John Harden for a powerful conversation about curiosity, automation, SaaS innovation, and the future of human thinking in an AI-first world. 🤖

John shares his journey from being a self-taught teenage programmer competing nationally in software development to becoming a visionary builder focused on solving complex problems for MSPs and businesses navigating artificial intelligence.

The conversation explores the psychology behind AI adoption, why humans are becoming increasingly passive with technology, and how intentional curiosity may become one of the most valuable skills of the future. John also discusses entrepreneurship, balancing fatherhood with startup life, and the importance of staying mentally engaged while AI tools continue evolving at lightning speed.

🌟 Top 3 Highlights:

• The hidden dangers of AI complacency and passive thinking

• How “100 coffee meetings” transformed John’s communication and leadership skills

• Why MSPs are struggling to monetize AI — and what happens next

This episode is essential listening for MSP leaders, entrepreneurs, software developers, AI enthusiasts, and anyone trying to understand where technology and human behavior are heading next.