In this conversation, Joey Pinz sits down with Niels van Ingen of Keepit to explore how curiosity, problem-solving, and discipline fuel both personal growth and MSP success.

🔧 Niels shares his passion for fixing broken things—whether it’s cars, stoves, or complex IT systems—and how this hands-on mindset translates into solving challenges in the SaaS world. Instead of rushing to solutions, he emphasizes falling in love with the problem first.

☁️ With SaaS adoption exploding, Niels explains why SaaS data protection is one of the biggest overlooked opportunities for MSPs. He highlights risks with M365, Google, Salesforce, and more—where many customers wrongly assume vendors are handling backups. He stresses the shared responsibility model, profitability for MSPs, and why recovery (not just backup) is the true test of resilience.

💡 Beyond tech, Niels reflects on his own health scare, the role of daily discipline (like running), and the importance of slowing down to reflect—both in life and in business.

🎯 Key takeaways for MSPs:

• SaaS data protection is a wide-open growth opportunity.
• Focus on recovery, cost, and long-term resilience, not just checkbox backups.
• Discipline means taking time to reflect, celebrate wins, and act with intention.

📩 Connect with Niels at [email protected] or on LinkedIn.