In this episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Dr. Larry Little, an entrepreneur, leadership coach, and author, to discuss the power of leadership, personal growth, and faith in business success. With over 25 years of experience building leaders and organizations, Larry shares how intentional growth, discipline, and resilience shape the...
#571 ITNation Grow:🏌️♂️ Shawn Brown-From the Golf Course to MSP Success: Automation & Growth
In this episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Shawn Brown, an MSP leader and automation expert, to discuss the future of managed services, M&A strategies, and the impact of automation on business growth. As the force behind Snap Tech IT and Raven Automation, Shawn shares how automation, structured processes, and...
#570 ITNation Grow: 🌾 From MSPs to Farming: Nick Recker’s Unconventional Journey
In this episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Nick Recker, a seasoned MSP founder and business leader, to discuss scaling MSPs, leadership, faith, and the evolving role of AI. With a background in tech, mergers, and entrepreneurship, Nick shares his journey from building a successful MSP to launching Blue Alliance,...
#569 ITNation Grow:🏌️♂️ Hardin Byars- Leadership, Coaching & Business Growth: Lessons from the Green
In this episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Hardin Byars, a seasoned executive coach and leadership expert, to discuss the power of coaching, leadership development, and business transformation. With decades of experience guiding CEOs, executives, and high-performing teams, Hardin shares his insights on self-awareness, strategic growth, and the discipline required...
#568 ITNation Grow: 🏆 Tom Hermstad-Water Polo, Leadership & MSP Growth Strategies
In this episode, Joey Pinz chats with Tom Hermstad, an MSP veteran with 30 years in the industry, about cybersecurity, business growth, and leadership. From the early days of managed services to navigating today’s cyber threats, Tom shares what MSPs must do to stay competitive and secure.💡 Top 3 Highlights:✅...
#567 ITNation Grow: 🔑 The Secret to MSP Success: Culture, Talent & Growth with Terrell “TJ” Jackson
In this episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Terrell “TJ” Jackson, founder of Culture Fits, to discuss the key to MSP success—culture, hiring, and growth. With years of experience in MSP recruitment and M&A strategy, TJ shares how MSPs can attract top talent, retain key employees, and position themselves for...
#566 ITNation Grow: 🏆 From Break-Fix to Thriving MSP: Jon Cooper’s Journey
In this episode, Joey Pinz chats with Jon Cooper, an MSP veteran with over 25 years in the industry. From starting as a break-fix shop in 1999 to growing Total Secure Technology through acquisitions, Jon shares his lessons on business growth, leadership, and the power of EOS.💡 Top 3 Highlights:✅...
#565 ITNation Grow: 🔄 From Entrepreneur to MSP Integrator with Kevin Hagemoser
In this insightful episode, Joey Pinz chats with Kevin Hagemoser, a business integrator and EOS expert who helps MSPs scale, merge, and improve operations. With a background in entrepreneurship and private equity, Kevin shares why MSPs struggle with growth, security, and talent retention—and how they can overcome these challenges.💡 Top...
#564 ITNation Grow: 🏀 Business, Basketball & Big Decisions with Brian Hoppe
In this engaging episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Brian Hoppe, a former MSP owner turned executive coach and consultant. Brian shares his journey from growing an MSP to selling it at the right time and why he now helps other MSPs navigate growth, security, and leadership challenges.💡 Top 3...
#563 ITNation Grow: 🌍 From MSPs to YouTube: Kass Lawrence’s Journey
In this insightful episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Kass Lawrence, who brings a wealth of experience from the MSP world and cybersecurity. From supporting her husband’s MSP to transitioning into sales and security with Blumera, Kass shares her unexpected journey into the industry, the realities of MSP life, and...










